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“We are playing €100/€200 PLO in the high stakes section of the poker room. Two players limp in EP, I make it 1100 with KhKcJd9d in MP, Juha Helppi calls in the CO, Bullitos calls after him in the SB, and an older Spanish guy pots it to 5900 from the BB. The sizing might be a tiny bit off, but not by more than 300.
- David 'Bullitos' van der Weele: 787 +$38,606-Losers. The above top three of biggest winners and losers in online poker for 2016 and the top 10 biggest winners and losers online for the last.
- € 1,500 + 150 No Limit Hold'em European Poker Tour - EPT Deauville, Deauville 23rd € 5,200 $ 6,839 09-Nov-2011: Netherlands: € 5,000 No Limit Hold'em - Dutch Open Master Classics of Poker (MCOP) 2011, Amsterdam 22nd € 10,290 $ 14,199 20-Mar-2011: Austria.
- David 'Bullitos' van der Weele is a Dutch poker pro who hails from the city of Groningen. In his youth van der Weele spent his time either playing sports, namely football (soccer) and basketball.
- The Big One for One Drop at the World Series of Poker in Las Vegas in 2012 and 2014 attracted the biggest names in poker and the results of those two tournaments still dominates the all-time money list. This year, though, there's a twist; no professionals are allowed to play.
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In just a week's time, the One Drop Extravaganza kicks off at the Casino Monte Carlo. Guy Laliberté came up with the idea for the event and organizes the tournament in conjunction with the World Series of Poker. PokerNews will be on site to report everything live from Monte Carlo.
The Big One for One Drop at the World Series of Poker in Las Vegas in 2012 and 2014 attracted the biggest names in poker and the results of those two tournaments still dominates the all-time money list. This year, though, there's a twist; no professionals are allowed to play. Laliberté said in the announcement video that 'the event is for recreational players only.'
The question we need to look at is what makes someone a poker professional? My colleague Marty Derbyshire ]defines being a professional as '[people] who undergo specialised training and contribute something to society, practicing what they've learned professionally.' I, personally, have a much less strict definition. For me, a poker professional is someone who relies on poker for (the most part) of their income.
That still isn't as strict a line as one might want when deciding who's a recreational player and who's a professional player. In the end, it doesn't really matter. As far as we know, it's up to Guy Laliberté himself to decide if you can play or not. It's as Daniel Negreanu said in an interview with PokerNews;
'Basically, if Guy wants to let someone play, he can let them play. It's that simple. People are like 'Well, are you gonna let Talal [Shakerchi] play? Do you consider him an amateur?' But really, it's up to Guy. It's as simple as that.'
That doesn't mean we can't take a look who we think is eligible to play, and who's likely to compete. To start we've taken a look at the entrance list for The Big One for One Drop 2012 and The Big One for One Drop 2014. Everyone we know that has a different main job or is retired and plays poker as a hobby, and players we think Laliberté might consider playing, we listed underneath:
| The Big One for One Drop 2012 | The Big One for One Drop 2014 |
|---|---|
| ● Bill Perkins | ● Rick Salomon |
| ● Paul Phua | ● Tom Hall |
| ● Chamath Palihapitiya | ● Gabe Kaplan |
| ● Ilya Bulychev | ● Cary Katz |
| ● John Morgan | ● Paul Newey |
| ● Haralabos Voulgaris | ● Bill Klein |
| ● Talal Shakerchi | ● John Morgan |
| ● Cary Katz | ● Talal Shakerchi |
| ● Dan Shak | ● Guy Laliberté |
| ● Paul Newey | ● Rono Lo |
| ● Rick Salomon | ● Stanley Choi |
| ● Richard Yong | ● David Einhorn |
| ● David Einhorn | |
| ● Phil Ruffin | |
| ● Bob Bright | |
| ● Brandon Steven | |
| ● Guy Laliberté | |
| ● Frederic Banjout | |
| ● Bobby Baldwin | |
| ● Mikhail Smirnov | |
| ● Giovanni Guarascio |
As you can see, there are recreational players that play just about full time these days, and you have recreational players that only play so often. While someone like Paul Newey plays a big slate of events every year, someone like David Einhorn or Chamath Palihapitiya really only show up for an event once a year.
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But there are more recreational players in the world that might give this €1,000,000-buy-in event a try. There have been numerous other big events in the world besides the two One Drop tournaments, including the $250,000 reentry 2012 Macau High Stakes Challenge Super High Roller and $300,000 Super High Roller Bowl.
To get a feel for who might be competing, we've taken the all time money list on HendonMob.com and filtered out all the players we know that play for a living and players that have never competed in big buy-in events. That doesn't leave a whole lot of players. So who are the best rich recreational players in the world, judging by their results?
1) Dan Shak
| Live earnings: | $8,638,844 |
| Position all time money list: | 60th |
| Biggest score: | 2nd place ($1,178,980) |
| PCA 2014 $100,000 Super High Roller | |
| Country: | United States |
| Profession: | Commodities Trader |
2) Stanley Choi
| Live earnings: | $7,104,152 |
| Position all time money list: | 82nd |
| Biggest score: | 1st place ($6,465,574) |
| 2012 Macau High Stakes Challenge Super High Roller | |
| Country: | China |
| Profession: | Founder YunFeng Capital, largest shareholder Simsen International Financial Group |
3) Cary Katz
| Live earnings: | $7,114,113 |
| Position all time money list: | 83rd |
| Biggest score: | 8th place ($1,306,667) |
| 2014 The Big One for One Drop (WSOP) | |
| Country: | United States |
| Profession: | Former Board Chairman College Loan Corporation, Founder Poker Central® |
4) Richard Yong
| Live earnings: | $5,973,913 |
| Position all time money list: | 114th |
| Biggest score: | 1st place ($1,477,560) |
| Aussie Millions 2015 $100,000 Challenge | |
| Country: | Malaysia |
| Profession: | Gambling related business man |
5) David Einhorn
| Live earnings: | $5,152,863 |
| Position all time money list: | 150th |
| Biggest score: | 3rd place ($4,352,000) |
| 2012 The Big One for One Drop (WSOP) | |
| Country: | United States |
| Profession: | Hedge Fund Manager, founder Greenlight Capital |
6) Tony G
| Live earnings: | $4,826,341 |
| Position all time money list: | 166th |
| Biggest score: | 3rd place ($552,239) |
| €25,000 High Roller EPT Grand Final 2009 | |
| Country: | Lithuania |
| Profession: | Member European Parliament, Business man |
7) Mark Teltscher
| Live earnings: | $4,165,025 |
| Position all time money list: | 205th |
| Biggest score: | 2nd place ($920,015) |
| 2007 EPT Barcelona Main Event | |
| Country: | United Kingdom |
| Profession: | Trader, real estate investor |
8) Roger Sippl
| Live earnings: | $3,770,381 |
| Position all time money list: | 235th |
| Biggest score: | 2nd place ($1,344,420) |
| 2015 PCA $100,000 Super High Roller | |
| Country: | United States |
| Profession: | Entrepreneur software industry |
9) Paul Newey
| Live earnings: | $3,337,703 |
| Position all time money list: | 293rd |
| Biggest score: | 7th place ($1,418,667) |
| 2014 The Big One for One Drop (WSOP) | |
| Country: | United Kingdom |
| Profession: | Former Venture Capitalist, former owner Ocean Finance |
10) Talal Shakerchi
| Live earnings: | $2,711,458 |
| Position all time money list: | 406th |
| Biggest score: | 1st place ($656,599) |
| 2013 EPT London £10,000 High Roller | |
| 1st place ($1,468,000.88) | |
| 2016 SCOOP Main Event | |
| Country: | United Kingdom |
| Profession: | Hedge Fund Manager |
The organisation announced last week that 35 players have signed up, but no names were in the press release. Dan Shak leads the Top 10 we composed and intends on playing the event. He has poker pro Scott Seiver as his mentor and sells shares online:
only 20 percent now available for the @ODExtravaganza selling fast again @scott_seiver will be coaching out of my end only so great deal.
— Daniel Shak (@daniel_shak)Besides Shak we know Guy Laliberté is playing himself, coached by Daniel Negreanu:
I will be attending One Drop playing coach to the man himself: Guy Laliberte. Coaching venue is his yacht in the south of France next week.
— Daniel Negreanu (@RealKidPoker)Who's your money on from the Top 10 above?
Last Two Week's Biggest Pots Online
The three biggest pots of the last two weeks, all came from the $200/$400 pot limit Omaha tables. All of them were six-handed and all of them featured multiple people in the pot. All three times, the pot was chopped between two players while a third ended up losing all of it.
1) 'Grazvis1' and 'Ravenswood13' Chop a $206,872-Pot (517 big blinds) versus 'EEE27'
($200/$400 PLO 6-Handed)
'EEE27' opened under the gun for $1,880 and got called by 'Grazvis1' on the button and Sergey 'St1ckman' Vasiliev in the small blind. Big blind 'Ravenswood13' squeezed to 9,880 and everyone called, growing a massive $40,080 pot going into the flop.
Vasiliev checked on and 'Ravenswood' bet pot, leaving himself $36,261.06 behind. 'EEE27' called all in for $14,289.41 total and 'Grazvis' pushed for $91,786.85, prompting a fold by Vasiliev. 'Ravenswood13' called all in for $76,256.06 total.
| (user)name | hand | equity on |
|---|---|---|
| 'EEE27' | 10.06% | |
| 'Grazvis1' | 69.52% | |
| 'Ravenswood13' | 20.42% |
The three of them ran the turn and river twice. The first time it came , , making 'Grazvis1' a full house and granting him half the pot. The second time it came , , giving 'Ravenswood13' a flush and the other half.
2) 'Aron0621' Wins in a $166,672-Pot (416 big blinds) versus 'bajskorven87' and David 'Bullitos' van der Weele
($200/$400 PLO 6-Handed)
From the cutoff, 'bajskorven87' raised to $1,200 and 'Aron0621' three-bet to $4,680 from the button. Big blind David 'Bullitos' van der Weele four-bet to $15,920 and both of his opponents called, growing the pot to $48,920.
The flop came and Van der Weele pushed all in for $47,296. 'bajskorven87' called all in for $23,160. 'Aron0621' had them both covered and called the all-in as well.
| (user)name | hand | equity on |
|---|---|---|
| 'Aron0621' | 41.59% | |
| 'bajskorven87' | 17.27% | |
| David 'Bullitos' van der Weele | 39.04% |
The three of them ran it a single time, and it came , giving 'bajskorven87' a winning backdoor flush. The side-pot went to 'Aron0621' as the river ten gave him or her two-pair.
3) 'Grazvis1' and Tom 'tjbentham' Bentham Chop a $165,766-Pot (414 big blinds) versus Ben 'Ben86' Tollerene
($200/$400 PLO 6-Handed)
Ben 'Ben86' Tollerene opened for $1,880 and his neighbor 'Grazvis1' called from the cutoff. Small blind Tom 'tjbentham' Bentham squeezed to $8,400 only to be called by Tollerene.
'Grazvis1' resqueezed for $36,360 and Bentham moved all in for $59,592.42. Tollerene had all of his chips all in as well, and so did 'Grazvis1' soon enough.
| (user)name | hand | equity | chop |
|---|---|---|---|
| 'Grazvis1' | 8.70% | 34.59% | |
| Tom 'tjbentham' Bentham | 15.92% | 34.61% | |
| Ben 'Ben86' Tollerene | 40.77% | 0.02% |
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They ran the entire board twice. The first time it came , the second time around it ran out . Both times aces chipped the pot, leaving Tollerene the sole loser in the hand.
Online High Stakes Action Last Two Weeks
There was plenty of action online these last two weeks. After a somewhat slower week after WCOOP, the big names were back and several high stakes games started running. The biggest winner is Mikael 'ChaoRen160' Thuritz, banking just over a quarter of a million, resulting in him being up over half a million for the year and almost $1.5 million lifetime. The biggest loser, according to HighStakesDB, was Isaac 'philivey2694' Haxton.
| (user)name | hands | profit/loss last week | profit/loss 2016 | profit/loss all time | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Winning Players | |||||
| 1 | Mikael 'ChaoRen160' Thuritz | 4,484 | +$251,444 | +$576,817 | +$1,437,365 |
| 2 | Dani 'supernova9' Stern | 1,246 | +$244,373 | +$200,387 | -$234,073 |
| 3 | ltt1981 | 4,545 | +$123,573 | +$192,748 | +$192,748 |
| 4 | Jason Mercier | 3,659 | +$99,760 | -$73,650 | -$519,762 |
| 5 | Ben 'Sauce123' Sulsky | 1,903 | +$89,753 | +$1,005,326 | +$5,042,529 |
| 6 | Phil 'MrSweets28' Galfond | 839 | +$80,497 | +$216,893 | +$1,499,773 |
| 7 | Grazvis1 | 1,156 | +$69,724 | +$174,129 | +$185,049 |
| 8 | Iimitless | 267 | +$52,115 | +$57,560 | +$57,560 |
| 9 | BastianX | 1,335 | +$48,030 | +$37,751 | +$80,796 |
| 10 | Jens 'Jeans89' Kyllönen | 299 | +$43,456 | +$211,372 | +$5,124,109 |
| Losing Players | |||||
| 1 | Isaac 'philivey2694' Haxton | 1,878 | -$179,485 | +$481,821 | +$692,372 |
| 2 | Aron0621 | 1,784 | -$171,056 | -$111,348 | -$806,370 |
| 3 | Daniel 'KidPoker' Negreanu | 257 | -$131,057 | -$131,057 | -$492,733 |
| 4 | Scott 'gunning4you' Seiver | 441 | -$111,196 | -$84,821 | +$143,175 |
| 5 | VeGeTTo89 | 1,801 | -$67,199 | +$144,820 | +$201,432 |
| 6 | candela2005 | 1,997 | -$64,920 | -$481,735 | -$1,385,934 |
| 7 | ForTheSwaRMm | 883 | -$55,477 | -$94,304 | +$96,166 |
| 8 | Jens 'Fresh_oO_D' Lakemeier | 6,640 | -$50,519 | -$131,504 | -$345,756 |
| 9 | OBORRA | 288 | -$49,590 | -$32,737 | -$34,892 |
| 10 | Mike 'gordo16' Gorodinsky | 1,398 | -$38,961 | -$127,529 | -$463,611 |
The 2016 Leaderboard
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With Isaac 'philivey2694' Haxton losing almost $180,000 in the past two weeks, he slid down from the number 2 spot on the 2016 leaderboard to spot number 4. Mikael 'ChaoRen160' Thuritz jumped into the spot left by Haxton, taking 2nd place in the yearly leaderboard.
Andres 'Educa-p0ker' Artinano lost a bit but remains in third position.
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| (user)name | hands 2016 | profit/loss 2016 | profit/loss per hand 2016 | profit/loss all time | ↑/↓ this week | most played game 2016 | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Winning players | |||||||
| 1 | Ben 'Sauce123' Sulsky | 72,107 | +$1,005,326 | +$13.94 | +$5,042,529 | ↑ | 8-game |
| 2 | Mikael 'ChaoRen160' Thuritz | 47,554 | +$576,817 | +$12.12 | +$1,437,365 | ↑ | PLO |
| 2 | Andres 'Educa-p0ker' Artinano | 29,373 | +$561,801 | +$19.12 | +$982,789 | ↓ | NLHM |
| Losing players | |||||||
| 1 | Viktor 'Isildur1' Blom | 163,726 | -$685,566 | -$4.18 | +$1,315,394 | ↑ | 8-game |
| 2 | 'bodamos' | 9,983 | -$662,795 | -$66.39 | -$1,989,916 | - | 8-Game |
| 3 | Alex 'Kanu7' Millar | 27,382 | -$605,291 | -$22.10 | +$2,655,300 | ↓ | NLHM |
The above top three biggest winners and losers in online poker for 2016 and the top 10 biggest winners and losers online for the last week only consist of PokerStars accounts that haven't opted out with HighStakesDB.com.
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Another year of controversy for Barcelona casino. Last year if you remember, players got they rooms broken into and computers hacked, if you want to read all about the story here is the full event in details.
This year Ansky is taking the heat by what he said the casino cheated him out of 18k euros. Here is what he said about the unfortunate event :
“We are playing €100/€200 PLO in the high stakes section of the poker room. Two players limp in EP, I make it 1100 with KhKcJd9d in MP, Juha Helppi calls in the CO, Bullitos calls after him in the SB, and an older Spanish guy pots it to 5900 from the BB. The sizing might be a tiny bit off, but not by more than 300. Limpers fold, I call, Juha calls and Bullitos does as well. The pot is roughly 24k.
The flop is Ks9s7x. Bullitos checks, BB shoves for slightly over 10k, I jam for around 40k, Juha folds, and Bullitos calls all in for around 4k-5k. At this point we tell the dealer to stop so we can discuss running it twice. I was concerned with the language barrier so several times I clarified that we were running it twice for the whole pot. I specifically said the whole pot, run it twice, so that there would be no confusion. We all agree.
The first board runs out Ks9s7x As 4x. Second board runs out 7x 6x. BB shows AAxx, and I table my hand. Bullitos has a wrap which gets scooped. So at this point we should be chopping up Bullitos’ money as well as the main pot, and each taking back our money for the side pot. In total the main pot has around 36k in it after the flop action, so my share should be 18k. This is when the chaos starts.”
“This is when the chaos started” said Ansky. He explained that the Spanish guy is now claiming that following the rules of the casino, you can only run it twice in heads up pots but that it is forbidden in multi-way pots. Therefore if they follow the rule it is only valid for the side pot and that the first board apply for the main pot only.
Ansky said that at this point there was quite a big of a gathering around their table and people are yelling in both Spanish and english, the dealer was just standing there a bit overwhelmed with the situation. The BB guy finally walked away to get the floor. Ansky mentioned also that
“he appears to be a local and to know the staff, but I will admit that is just my read of the situation and I don’t know that for sure.”
The story should have end well for Ansky when the first floor manager rules that the verbal agreement they did was binding, therefore the run it twice is valid…well the story doesn’t end here…a higher up floor manager is called and decided that the multi way pots is forbidden, therefore the entire main pot is awarded to the BB with AA.
At this point it seems that the Spanish guy even said that “he had no agreement on running it twice in the main pot”.
The situation heats up as people try to take pictures of the situation and casino goes at them saying that taking a picture will lead to ban them from the casino. To note as well that the floor manager refused to give out his name claiming that his name is “poker manager” every time somebody asked him.
The hand and story ends here when the floor instructed the dealer to ship the pot to the BB and that the argument was over. Very angry, Ansky posted the whole story on 2+2to get people’s opinions. Lots of people are saying maybe the spanish guy misunderstood but Ansky added that the dealer who probably speaks spanish and english confirmed that they all agreed to the run it twice before dealing.
Lots of people are also arguing that the rules are the rules, what’s your opinion ? Should a verbal agreement with witnesses be enough to hold ?
Hopefully if you are in Barcelona to play and read this article you will make sure to always follow the blueprint rules of the casino or you might get angled by the locals !
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